Tim Rose: Links & Lyrics   Photo: Tim & me
 

Although this was the original Tim Rose Website, Tim also has an official one. Acknowledging that I didn't have the time to keep things fully up-to-date, he arranged for a formal website to be set up and run by a professional web designer. You can find that site at tim-rose.co.uk where you'll get all the current information and you can even buy CDs there!

The unofficial website that you are now reading has been on the go since around 1997. Every so often, I would get an e-mail or a phone call from Tim, asking me to add a fresh piece of information - a tour date or an update on a CD release. Sometimes, I was a little slow in making changes to the website. I would use the excuse of having a family and a full time job and that these things had to come first.

Tim would be very patient, but one time early in 2002, when I said that I was writing a major upgrade to the whole website - which features six artists, not just Tim - he made the point (referring to Tim Hardin and David Ackles) that I should concentrate on the living, not the dead. Well, guess what? I plan to continue to ignore that instruction, now that Tim has joined the other two. This site will continue.

Other Websites

As well as being mentioned by a number of businesses that are involved in selling second hand albums and by some people who have listed their entire record collection on their website, Tim gets a mention during an interview with Bonnie Dobson, original composer of Morning Dew. That interview is available on the Grateful Dead's link website.

You can hear an hour-long radio programme by the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation about the disputed authorship of Morning Dew, but it has to be stressed that it is one-sided and offered no right of reply to Tim or anyone associated with him. A classic example of fitting a story around an opinion.

A review of the Jaques Laureys film, Where Was I?, shown at the 1992 Sheffield International Documentary Festival, is given in the Culture Wars website.

Some may feel it intrusive, but there is a website devoted to the graves of famous people. Find A Grave has details of where Tim is buried as well as a photo of his gravestone. In addition, I have attached a page containing some photos of Tim's grave taken by artist Trevor Neal.

There is a Facebook page on Tim, but it seems to have been confused a bit in that there are references to a completely different Tim Rose, who is in his twenties. Perhaps the page needs to be reclaimed by fans of the real Tim Rose.

Mystic Records, the label that released American Son, has a page that was written shortly after Tim's death.

Several websites, such as the one run by the BBC, attempt to offer a summation of the life of Tim, most of them lifting the biography from Wikipedia.

The All Music Guide gives a very detailed coverage of Tim's career, including insightful comments by Richie Unterberger.

The official Cass Elliot website has an interesting biography and a number of pictures of Tim as part of The Big Three and The Triumvirate.

Rambles is an online cultural arts magazine and it includes a review of The London Sessions CD.

Because Small Town Talk was co-written by Rick Danko, there's an article on The Musician as part of a website devoted to The Band.

The Who Sampled website allows you to listen to and compare the versions of Hey Joe by Tim Rose and Jimi Hendrix.

The Tim Rose Autism House was named after Tim. He had a strong interest in supporting youngsters with learning needs and he was a devoted friend of this New Jersey charity.

Rate Your Music is a website where you can express your opinions on all the albums & singles you own. The link here is to the listing of material by Tim and contains a few interesting reviews already. It needs some strong fan input, though.

Uncut, the music magazine, has a review of Tim's last recorded album, Snowed In.

A detailed review of the 2-for-1 combination of Tim's first two albums appears, along with blog-style responses on the PHROCK website.

The Lyrics.com website has a number of the songs Tim performed listed on their site, but only three have full lyrics given: Come Away Melinda, Hey Joe & I'm Gonna Be Strong.

The provenance of Hey Joe is discussed in an article in The Independent, where this pseudo-traditional song has adaptations by  various musicians, including Billy Roberts (who copyrighted it in 1962), Len Partridge, Niela Miller, Dino Valente and Tim Rose.

Further webpage with even more fascinating details about Billy Roberts and the provenance of Hey Joe.

There's a Southampton performance review by Mike Plumbley from 1997 on this Clearspot website.

The Songkick website has a review and setlist from Tim's performance at The Borderline in 2002. You have to log in to view the page.

And, of course, YouTube has a number of videos that, if I were to put them up on this site, they'd be illegal. Many of them are simply stills accompanying a recording of one of Tim's songs. Nevertheless, I've put links to the actual performance videos from the YouTube site onto the Concert & TV pages of this site.

Any information on further sightings would be appreciated.

 

Tim Rose: Lyrics

Morning Dew (Dobson/Rose)

Walk me out in the morning dew
Walk me out in the morning dew today
I can’t walk you out in no morning dew
I can’t walk you out in no morning dew at all

Thought I heard a young girl cryin’ mama
Thought I heard a young girl cry today
You never heard no young girl cryin’
You never heard no young girl cry at all

Thought I heard a young boy cryin’ mama
Thought I heard a young boy cry today
You didn’t hear no young boy cryin’ buddy
You never heard no young boy cry at all

Thought I heard a young man cryin’ mama
Thought I heard a young man cry today
You never heard no young man cryin'
You never heard no young man cry at all

Now there is no more morning dew
Now there is no more morning dew
What they’ve been sayin’ all these years is true
Now they done taken away all our morning dew.

 

Long Time Man (Rose)

Yeah, they came to take me away
Said I'd be sitting here for the rest of my life
But I don't really care - I shot my wife
And brother, I can't even remember the reason why

Oh, it makes a long time man feel bad
Yeah, it makes a long time man feel bad
Well I ain't had no love since I don't know when
It sure makes a long time man feel bad

We was down in Jacksonville
A cold winter night
My baby and I, we began to fight
I heated up, and I grabbed my gun
I get so cold on those nights down south

She was laying in a pool right there on the kitchen floor
She looked up at me and began to smile
Her gasping words: "Baby, I love you"
Then she closed those baby blue eyes

(chorus, variations & fade)
 

         

Hey Joe (trad, arr. Rose)

Hey Joe, where you goin' with that money in your hand?
Hey Joe, where you goin' with that money in your hand?
I'm gonna go down town buy me a blue steel 44 
I'm gonna go down town, gonna buy me a blue steel 44

Hey Joe, where you goin' with that gun in your hand?
Hey Joe, where you goin' with that gun in your hand?
I'm gonna shoot my woman, she's runnin' around with another man
 

I'm gonna shoot my old lady, she's runnin' around with another man


Hey Joe, I hear you shot your woman dead 
Hey Joe, I hear you've shot your woman dead
Yes, I did, you know, I found her out a runnin' round

Yes, I did, you know, I found her out a runnin' round

I Shot her!


Hey Joe, where you gonna go?
Ah, hey Joe, where you gonna go?
I guess I go down to Mexico 
I'm gonna  go down where a man can be free
Where there ain't no hangman gonna put a noose around me

 

I'm Gonna Be Strong (Mann/Weil)

I can see You're slipping away from me 
And yet so afraid I'll plead with you to stay 
But I'm gonna be strong And let you go your way 

Our love is gone There's no sense in holding on 
Cause your pity now Would be to much to bear 
So I'm gonna be strong And pretend that I don't care 

Chorus: I'm gonna be strong And stand as tall as I can 
Yes, I'm gonna be strong And as you walk along I'll take it like a man 

I can see You're slipping away from me 
And yet so afraid I'll plead with you to stay 
But I'm gonna be strong And let you go your way 

Chorus 

When you says it's the end I'll just have you a line 
I'll smile and say, Don't you worry, I'm fine 
And you'll never know, darling After you kiss me goodbye 
How I'll break down and cry

 

Come Away Melinda (Hellerman/Minkof)

Daddy, daddy, come and look
See what I have found
A little ways away from here
While digging in the ground

Come away Melinda
Come in and close the door
It's nothing, just a picture-book
They had before the war

Daddy, daddy, come and see
Daddy, come and look
Why, there's four or five
Little Melinda girls
Inside my picture book

Come away Melinda
Come in and close the door
There were lots of little girls like you
Before they had the war

Oh Daddy, daddy, come and see
Daddy, hurry do
Why, there's someone
In a pretty dress
She's all grown up like you

Come away Melinda
Come in and close the door
That someone is your Mummy
You had before the war

Daddy, daddy, tell me if you can
Why can't things be
The way they were
Before the war began

Come away Melinda
Come in and close the door
The answer lies in yesterday
Before they had the war

 

 

 

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